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		<title>Msemm at 19:09, 28 January 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Msemm|Msemm]] ([[User talk:Msemm|talk]]) 12:30, 26 January 2014 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Msemm|Msemm]] ([[User talk:Msemm|talk]]) 12:30, 26 January 2014 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/myposition/index.php?title=Log_format&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Admin: Created page with &quot;'''* Add the value cellid in long/short-format in measurements_.csv/cell_towers.csv'''   '''* Add the value RNC (Radio Network Controller) in measurements_.csv/cell_towers.csv...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;* Add the value cellid in long/short-format in measurements_.csv/cell_towers.csv&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;   &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;* Add the value RNC (Radio Network Controller) in measurements_.csv/cell_towers.csv...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''* Add the value cellid in long/short-format in measurements_.csv/cell_towers.csv''' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''* Add the value RNC (Radio Network Controller) in measurements_.csv/cell_towers.csv (UMTS)'''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''* Add latitude and longitude from the calculated real position in the cell_towers.csv (Real place from the base station)'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The actual position from the most cells is the middle from all measurements. &lt;br /&gt;
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With the value signal maybe it is possible to calculate with the best signals (ASU = 31 or -51 dBm) the best calculated real place from the base station.&lt;br /&gt;
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The value for the real latitude/longitude can used in example from a clf-import.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the moment it is a mix with the middle and clf-import with the real position.&lt;br /&gt;
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The real postion is useful for the apps G-Mon, G-NetTrack or RF Signal Tracker to create a cellfile or show alayer with the base stations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Calculated middle from the cell:&lt;br /&gt;
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changeable=1:&lt;br /&gt;
the GPS position of the cell tower has been calculated from all available measurements &lt;br /&gt;
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Real position from the cell:&lt;br /&gt;
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changeable=0:&lt;br /&gt;
the GPS position of the cell tower is precise; no measurements have been used to calculate it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Example:&lt;br /&gt;
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latitude_middle, longitude_middle, latitude_real, longitude_real&lt;br /&gt;
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'''* Add the value cellrange.''' &lt;br /&gt;
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With the value cellrange you can add the simple way for triangulation (see example google).&lt;br /&gt;
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For this you use the calculated middle.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lat=45.641502&lt;br /&gt;
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Lon=8.812474&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Range=1177 m'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Example with the calculated middle and cellrange:&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.open-electronics.org/celltrack/cell.php?hex=0&amp;amp;mcc=222&amp;amp;mnc=10&amp;amp;lac=00010012&amp;amp;cid=00039309&amp;amp;lac0=00010012&amp;amp;cid0=00005188&amp;amp;lac1=00010012&amp;amp;cid1=00017252&amp;amp;lac2=00010012&amp;amp;cid2=00039303&amp;amp;lac3=00010012&amp;amp;cid3=00039301&amp;amp;lac4=00010012&amp;amp;cid4=00039307&lt;br /&gt;
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'''* Add value description for details from the cell&lt;br /&gt;
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Example:&lt;br /&gt;
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- street&lt;br /&gt;
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- address&lt;br /&gt;
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- bcch&lt;br /&gt;
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- town&lt;br /&gt;
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Links:&lt;br /&gt;
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* http://senderlistemuc.de/standorte_telekom.html&lt;br /&gt;
* http://gsm.yz.to/karte.php?x=366458&amp;amp;y=548039&lt;br /&gt;
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* Add value '''radio''' with describes the used technology like '''gsm, umts or lte&lt;br /&gt;
'''&lt;br /&gt;
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So you can see which technology is at the place.&lt;br /&gt;
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Example Mozilla Location service:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://mozilla-ichnaea.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cell.html&lt;br /&gt;
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* Add value '''altitude'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Useful for 3D heatmap &lt;br /&gt;
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Example Mozilla Location service:&lt;br /&gt;
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https://mozilla-ichnaea.readthedocs.org/en/latest/api/submit.html&lt;br /&gt;
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CLF version 3.0 supports the following data. Should it be supported by OCID as well?&lt;br /&gt;
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This format uses more information about cells. It has the following format:&lt;br /&gt;
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MCC+MNC;CellId;LAC;RNC;Latitude;Longitude;Ratio;Data;RFU&lt;br /&gt;
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CellId and LAC can be decimal or hexadecimal.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Msemm|Msemm]] ([[User talk:Msemm|talk]]) 12:24, 26 January 2014 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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CDMA support: is there anything special required?&lt;br /&gt;
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- For CDMA, cell towers are identified via Network ID, Base sub-station ID and system ID (NID, BSSID and SID). CDMA phones include the Droid (II, X, HD, etc.), EVO 4G - all phones on Verizon and Sprint. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Msemm|Msemm]] ([[User talk:Msemm|talk]]) 12:25, 26 January 2014 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Some more data to be stored?&lt;br /&gt;
a com peting app displays advanced CellID info (LTE: RSRP, RSRQ, SNR, CQI, Timing Advance for LTE-TDD. CDMA: ECIO, EVDO ECIO, SNR)&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Msemm|Msemm]] ([[User talk:Msemm|talk]]) 12:30, 26 January 2014 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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